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- Lemon Quarter
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Re: Hargreaves Lansdown (HL.)
I can understand why they are the shorter’s favourite.
HL has been extremely successful over the years but it is basically a business with few barriers to entry and headwinds wherever one looks. The authorities are clamping down on their excessive creaming off of interest on client’s money (which has greatly boosted recent results). Their charges on clients holding funds can’t last as competitors cut fees. Net profit margin of 50% plus can’t last? Other brokers charge much less for dealing. OTOH they do have scale which is extremely important in their business. Most costs are relatively fixed.
I have been a client for many years, but am not a shareholder.
I have just been bribed £5k by II to move my Sipp from HL to them. It is an increasingly competitive business!
HL has been extremely successful over the years but it is basically a business with few barriers to entry and headwinds wherever one looks. The authorities are clamping down on their excessive creaming off of interest on client’s money (which has greatly boosted recent results). Their charges on clients holding funds can’t last as competitors cut fees. Net profit margin of 50% plus can’t last? Other brokers charge much less for dealing. OTOH they do have scale which is extremely important in their business. Most costs are relatively fixed.
I have been a client for many years, but am not a shareholder.
I have just been bribed £5k by II to move my Sipp from HL to them. It is an increasingly competitive business!
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Re: Hargreaves Lansdown (HL.)
monabri wrote:https://www.investegate.co.uk/announcement/rns/hargreaves-lansdown--hl./half-year-report/8050058
Half Year Report.
A quality company with a shareprice that would scare a professional downhill skier. A shorters favourite.
"Highlights
· AUA up 6% since 30 June 2023 to a record £142.2 billion (H1 2023: £127.1bn)
· Net New Business of £1.0 billion (H1 2023: £1.6bn)
· Revenue up 5% to £368.2 million (H1 2023: £350.0m)
· Underlying Diluted Earnings per Share 34.6p (H1 2023: 35.5p); Interim Dividend increased 4% to 13.2p (H1 2023 12.7p)
· Business-wide review largely complete; tangible progress against initial priorities and clear plan moving forward"
A frustrating share to own. For me, the turnaround plan is taking too long and the jury is still out on the new management team. It still looks cheap though, so what do you do? Answers on a postcard…
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Re: Hargreaves Lansdown (HL.)
simoan wrote:monabri wrote:https://www.investegate.co.uk/announcement/rns/hargreaves-lansdown--hl./half-year-report/8050058
Half Year Report.
A quality company with a shareprice that would scare a professional downhill skier. A shorters favourite.
"Highlights
· AUA up 6% since 30 June 2023 to a record £142.2 billion (H1 2023: £127.1bn)
· Net New Business of £1.0 billion (H1 2023: £1.6bn)
· Revenue up 5% to £368.2 million (H1 2023: £350.0m)
· Underlying Diluted Earnings per Share 34.6p (H1 2023: 35.5p); Interim Dividend increased 4% to 13.2p (H1 2023 12.7p)
· Business-wide review largely complete; tangible progress against initial priorities and clear plan moving forward"
A frustrating share to own. For me, the turnaround plan is taking too long and the jury is still out on the new management team. It still looks cheap though, so what do you do? Answers on a postcard…
I'm afraid I'd already bought in a few years ago ( way before your "GMS" review) so "frustrating " isn't the word I'd use! Looks like I got it wrong (not for a first time) - can't be right all the time. I was surprised at the shorting levels...HL is the 3rd most shorted company.
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Re: Hargreaves Lansdown (HL.)
monabri wrote:simoan wrote:A frustrating share to own. For me, the turnaround plan is taking too long and the jury is still out on the new management team. It still looks cheap though, so what do you do? Answers on a postcard…
I'm afraid I'd already bought in a few years ago ( way before your "GMS" review) so "frustrating " isn't the word I'd use! Looks like I got it wrong (not for a first time) - can't be right all the time. I was surprised at the shorting levels...HL is the 3rd most shorted company.
The shorting does not concern me. There is nothing wrong financially with the company which has a very strong balance sheet. And the shorters will have to buy their shares back at some point which will enhance the upside if the new management strategy works. I may add to my position if there are signs of that working later this year. In the meantime I will have to console myself with the well covered dividend and a large dose of hope…
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Re: Hargreaves Lansdown (HL.)
simoan wrote:
I will have to console myself with the well covered dividend and a large dose of hope…
With talk like that, I didn't realise you'd joined the HYPers?
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Re: Hargreaves Lansdown (HL.)
monabri wrote:simoan wrote:
I will have to console myself with the well covered dividend and a large dose of hope…
With talk like that, I didn't realise you'd joined the HYPers?
Dividends matter to Total Return investors too! Especially where capital return is negative
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Re: Hargreaves Lansdown (HL.)
Trading Statement,
https://www.investegate.co.uk/announcem ... nt/8163198
Ian (No holding).
Highlights
· Good momentum into tax year end with increased gross inflows, net new clients and share dealing volumes.
· Net new business of £1.6 billion in the period and closing Assets under Administration ("AUA") a record £149.7 billion.
· Net new clients of 34,000 in the period, up 48% year on year, taking us to 1,858,000 active clients.
· Revenue for the period of £199.7 million, up 6% (Q3 2023: £188.1m).
https://www.investegate.co.uk/announcem ... nt/8163198
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Re: Hargreaves Lansdown (HL.)
I wonder if HL have benefitted from the outflow of clients from St James's Place?
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Re: Hargreaves Lansdown (HL.)
nb This RNS by Nordic Capital XI Delta, SCSP;
Statement regarding Hargreaves Lansdown plc ("HL")
https://www.investegate.co.uk/announcem ... wn/8215395
Ian (No holding in either firm).
Statement regarding Hargreaves Lansdown plc ("HL")
CVC Advisers Limited ("CVC"), Nordic Capital XI Delta, SCSP (acting through its general partner Nordic Capital XI Delta GP SARL) ("Nordic Capital"), and Platinum Ivy B 2018 RSC Limited ("Platinum Ivy"), a wholly-owned subsidiary of Abu Dhabi Investment Authority ("ADIA") managed by the Private Equities investment department of ADIA (together, the "Consortium") note the recent speculation regarding a possible offer for HL.
The Consortium confirms that it is considering a possible offer for HL, most recently having approached the Board of HL at 985 pence per HL share on 26 April 2024. The Board of HL rejected this proposal.
There can be no certainty that any firm offer will be made.
A further announcement will be made as and when appropriate.
https://www.investegate.co.uk/announcem ... wn/8215395
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Re: Hargreaves Lansdown (HL.)
Further to the above;
RESPONSE TO RECENT ANNOUNCEMENT
https://www.investegate.co.uk/announcem ... on/8215818
Ian.
RESPONSE TO RECENT ANNOUNCEMENT
The independent Board of Directors of Hargreaves Lansdown[1] (the 'Board') notes the announcement from a consortium comprising CVC Advisers Limited ('CVC'), Nordic Capital XI Delta, SCSP (acting through its general partner Nordic Capital XI Delta GP SARL) ('Nordic Capital'), and Platinum Ivy B 2018 RSC Limited ('Platinum Ivy'), a wholly-owned subsidiary of Abu Dhabi Investment Authority ('ADIA') managed by the Private Equities investment department of ADIA (together, the 'Consortium') and confirms that it had previously received two approaches from the Consortium regarding a possible offer for Hargreaves Lansdown, most recently at a price of 985 pence per ordinary share in the share capital of Hargreaves Lansdown (the 'Proposal').
The Board confirms that it unanimously rejected the Proposal on the basis it substantially undervalues Hargreaves Lansdown and its future prospects. The Board is focused on executing its strategy and looks forward to updating the market at the full year results on 9th August 2024. In the meantime, shareholders are advised to take no action.
https://www.investegate.co.uk/announcem ... on/8215818
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Re: Hargreaves Lansdown (HL.)
Offer Update
https://www.investegate.co.uk/announcem ... te/8265914
"The independent Board of Hargreaves Lansdown[1] (the 'Board') confirms that it has received a further non-binding proposal (the 'Revised Proposal') from a consortium comprising CVC Advisers Limited ('CVC'), Nordic Capital XI Delta, SCSP (acting through its general partner Nordic Capital XI Delta GP SARL) ('Nordic Capital'), and Platinum Ivy B 2018 RSC Limited ('Platinum Ivy'), a wholly-owned subsidiary of Abu Dhabi Investment Authority ('ADIA') managed by the Private Equities investment department of ADIA (together, the 'Consortium') to acquire Hargreaves Lansdown at a price of 1,140p per Hargreaves Lansdown share in cash (the 'Revised Possible Cash Offer'), of which 30p comprises a FY2024 final dividend, with an option for Hargreaves Lansdown shareholders to elect for a rollover equity alternative in respect of some or all of their Hargreaves Lansdown shares."
https://www.investegate.co.uk/announcem ... te/8265914
"The independent Board of Hargreaves Lansdown[1] (the 'Board') confirms that it has received a further non-binding proposal (the 'Revised Proposal') from a consortium comprising CVC Advisers Limited ('CVC'), Nordic Capital XI Delta, SCSP (acting through its general partner Nordic Capital XI Delta GP SARL) ('Nordic Capital'), and Platinum Ivy B 2018 RSC Limited ('Platinum Ivy'), a wholly-owned subsidiary of Abu Dhabi Investment Authority ('ADIA') managed by the Private Equities investment department of ADIA (together, the 'Consortium') to acquire Hargreaves Lansdown at a price of 1,140p per Hargreaves Lansdown share in cash (the 'Revised Possible Cash Offer'), of which 30p comprises a FY2024 final dividend, with an option for Hargreaves Lansdown shareholders to elect for a rollover equity alternative in respect of some or all of their Hargreaves Lansdown shares."
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Re: Hargreaves Lansdown (HL.)
monabri wrote:Offer Update
https://www.investegate.co.uk/announcem ... te/8265914
"The independent Board of Hargreaves Lansdown[1] (the 'Board') confirms that it has received a further non-binding proposal (the 'Revised Proposal') from a consortium comprising CVC Advisers Limited ('CVC'), Nordic Capital XI Delta, SCSP (acting through its general partner Nordic Capital XI Delta GP SARL) ('Nordic Capital'), and Platinum Ivy B 2018 RSC Limited ('Platinum Ivy'), a wholly-owned subsidiary of Abu Dhabi Investment Authority ('ADIA') managed by the Private Equities investment department of ADIA (together, the 'Consortium') to acquire Hargreaves Lansdown at a price of 1,140p per Hargreaves Lansdown share in cash (the 'Revised Possible Cash Offer'), of which 30p comprises a FY2024 final dividend, with an option for Hargreaves Lansdown shareholders to elect for a rollover equity alternative in respect of some or all of their Hargreaves Lansdown shares."
Sounds like a done deal at 1140p given the board have accepted the offer price is fair and allowed the consortium to go ahead with due dilligence. I will be taking the cash offer and don’t understand why anyone would want to rollover into an unlisted investment vehicle.
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simoan wrote:monabri wrote:Offer Update
https://www.investegate.co.uk/announcem ... te/8265914
"The independent Board of Hargreaves Lansdown[1] (the 'Board') confirms that it has received a further non-binding proposal (the 'Revised Proposal') from a consortium comprising CVC Advisers Limited ('CVC'), Nordic Capital XI Delta, SCSP (acting through its general partner Nordic Capital XI Delta GP SARL) ('Nordic Capital'), and Platinum Ivy B 2018 RSC Limited ('Platinum Ivy'), a wholly-owned subsidiary of Abu Dhabi Investment Authority ('ADIA') managed by the Private Equities investment department of ADIA (together, the 'Consortium') to acquire Hargreaves Lansdown at a price of 1,140p per Hargreaves Lansdown share in cash (the 'Revised Possible Cash Offer'), of which 30p comprises a FY2024 final dividend, with an option for Hargreaves Lansdown shareholders to elect for a rollover equity alternative in respect of some or all of their Hargreaves Lansdown shares."
Sounds like a done deal at 1140p given the board have accepted the offer price is fair and allowed the consortium to go ahead with due dilligence. I will be taking the cash offer and don’t understand why anyone would want to rollover into an unlisted investment vehicle.
Yep...it looks that way. A shame....there goes another one!
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Re: Hargreaves Lansdown (HL.)
I suppose it does save the bother of what to sell in that account to cover a planned withdrawal. Mergers and acquisitions are coming more often than I'm used to in my holdings.
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Re: Hargreaves Lansdown (HL.)
As well as Hargreaves Lansdown, it appears that the Abu Dhabi Investment Authority (ADIA) is proposing to purchase a slice in Fisher Investments.
https://www.bing.com/news/search?q=Fisher+Investments+Partial+Sale+To+Abu+Dhabi&qpvt=fisher+investments+partial+sale+to+Abu+Dhabi&FORM=EWRE%20targeting%20major%20fund
Fisher will continue to hold a substantial majority interest in his private company, but the proceeds from his sale of a fraction (around $3B) to a consortium , including ADIA, is intended to be held as a part-cover for a tax demand on his personal demise. He is 73, and in good health, but is planning ahead.
https://www.bing.com/news/search?q=Fisher+Investments+Partial+Sale+To+Abu+Dhabi&qpvt=fisher+investments+partial+sale+to+Abu+Dhabi&FORM=EWRE%20targeting%20major%20fund
Fisher will continue to hold a substantial majority interest in his private company, but the proceeds from his sale of a fraction (around $3B) to a consortium , including ADIA, is intended to be held as a part-cover for a tax demand on his personal demise. He is 73, and in good health, but is planning ahead.
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